Philosophy Matters – James White Missing the Mark on Molinism

Dr. James White released another Dividing Line podcast on Thursday aimed at refuting Molinism. It was a response to a response by William Lane Craig to an argument by James Anderson (of Reformed Theological Seminary) about “the fallible God of Molinism”. There was also another response by White to Craig’s response to J.W. Wartick‘s summary of Travis Cambell’s argument against Molinism based on an objection to divine aseity. There are a lot of moving pieces so I’ll list the play by play.

December 18, 2013: Dr. Travis Campbell discussed middle knowledge in this podcast and objected to Molinism on the basis that it undermines God’s aseity.

January 8, 2014: J.W. Wartick summarizes Dr. Campbell’s arguments and makes his own comments in this blog post here. Sometime afterwards, William Lane Craig picked up this post and decided to use it to discuss Molinism on his podcast.

January 29, 2014: Dr. James Anderson of Reformed Theological Seminary formulated and published an argument against Molinism on the issue of fallibility in this blog post here.

May 4, 2014: Dr. William Lane Craig discusses J.W. Wartick’s blog post and responds to Dr. Anderson’s arguments in this podcast here.

May 8, 2014: On the Dividing Line podcast, James White plays and responds to Craig’s May 4th podcast which can be found here.

Preliminary Remarks on James White

Evidence that I really do like James White

Evidence that I really do like James White

I like James White. I know all of my posts on here have been critical but I do enjoy listening to the Dividing Line, his work on textual criticism is great, his material on the Trinity has been extremely useful, and I’m currently working through his latest book on the Qur’an. That being said, like he admits in the May 8th Dividing Line, everyone is a mixed bag. When it comes to issues of philosophy, especially Molinism, Dr. White is rough around the edges and makes some significat errors due to misunderstandings. It’s especially frustrating because he stresses all the time the need to “hear [people he disagrees with] in their own language” [1]. Molinism is rather philosophically robust and one can’t hear Molinism in its own language with philosophical misunderstandings. It is worth mentioning that in this latest podcast, Dr. White’s comments reflect a more balanced presentation of Molinism than came across in the previous podcasts which I addressed here and here.

So, I want it to be clear that I’m not attacking Dr. White personally and I don’t think that these percieved mistakes reflect on his character. Now that I’ve got that out of the way, let’s look at what he has to say about Molinism.

Rather than grouping things chronologically, I’m grouping his comments thematically

The Grounding Objection

This remains Dr. White’s biggest objection to Molinism and it permeates all of his other objections. The grounding objection, for those uninitiated, is the rejection of middle knowledge on the basis that there is no grounding for counterfactuals of creaturely freedom. In Dr. White’s words, how does God know what some creature, Sam, would do in certain circumstances? (For a more details on the grounding objection, consult this entry on the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy). The grounding objection is where Dr. White derives his “card-dealer” argument. The “card-dealer” argument is a rhetorical zinger that Dr. White gets from conjoining the grounding objection with a bad analogy Dr. Craig made some years ago. There are lots of moving pieces here so I’ll give a summary right quick.

Middle Knowledge – God’s knowledge of counterfactuals of freedom i.e. what a person would do if they were in certain circumstances

Grounding Objection –  How does God know these counterfactuals? Where do they come from?

Dr. Craig’s Card Analogy – Since He can’t control the truth of counterfactuals, God has to deal with the cards He’s been dealt

Dr. White’s Card Dealer – Since God doesn’t determine the truth of the counterfactuals of freedom, they must come from something or someone else. Who is the card dealer? He’s the one we should be worshipping.

Now, in this Dividing Line, Dr. White makes the comment “where do these counterfactuals come from? Apparently that’s not a question you can ask for the Molinist”. What’s rather bothersome is that the grounding objection has been answered several different ways by several different Molinists in the past 500 years since its development. Since Dr. White clarifies that he is arguing against “WLC’s version of Molinism”, I will focus just on the responses WLC has provided to the grounding objection; responses of which Dr. White hasn’t shown any cognizance despite the fact that Craig has been writing on this since at least 2001. My sources come from the two papers Middle Knowledge, Truth–Makers, and the “Grounding Objection”  (2001) and Ducking Friendly Fire: Davison on the Grounding Objection (2006) as well as the book Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview (2003) which Dr. Craig co-authored with J.P. Moreland

Burden of Proof

Craig posits that it’s actually the Grounding Objector and not the Molinist who shoulders the burden of proof. Because the Grounding Objection is a rebutting defeater (as opposed to an undercutting defeater), it must have more warrant than the Molinist’s assumption that there are true counterfactuals of freedom (Craig, 2001). Craig then provides three reasons to warrant the Molinist assumption

1) We appear to know counterfactuals and employ them in our daily lives. In fact our plans are inextricably linked with such counterfactuals. An example would be “If I were to pull out into traffic, I would make it across the intersection”.

2) It is plausible that the Law of Conditional Excluded Middle (LCEM) holds for counterfactuals of creaturely freedom.

3) Counterfactual statements are used in Scripture. For example, 1 Corinthians 2:8 “None of the rulers of this age understood this; for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory”

Moreover, the Molinist project itself is one of defense and not one of theodicy against the notion that God’s sovereignty and human freedom are mutually exclusive. As long as it is epistemically possible for these counterfactuals of freedom to exist, the Molinist is successful. Thus, the Grounding Objector is pushed from saying “where do these counterfactuals come from?” to saying “it is impossible for these counterfactuals to exist” which is a considerably stronger proposition. Craig gives more comments paralleling Molinism to the Special Theory of Relativity in his 2003. In any event, the Grounding Objector is at minimum pressed for more information which leads to the next response.

The Grounding Objection Ill-Defined

Second, Craig (with other Molinists) points out while that the grounding objection is one of the largest and purportedly potent objections against Molinism, it is easier raised than defined. He remarks “the irony is that this allegedly powerful objection has virtually never been articulated or defended in any depth by its advocates” (Craig, 2001). So, while it may be easy for Dr. White to casually say “where do these counterfactuals come from?”, when pressed for precision, Craig claims no one has stepped up to the challenge. While I think William Hasker has made some progress since Craig’s original 2001 article, Dr. White has not been sufficiently precise in his formulation of the grounding objection. Craig’s next step is to postulate that Grounding Objectors tacitly presuppose what he thinks is an untenable model of truth maker theory. I’ll go into more detail on this component in the next section.

Truth-Maker Theory

So far, Craig has argued that the burden of proof has been misplaced by the Grounding Objector. Then, he argued that the grounding objection itself is not a well-defined, precise counter argument but more or less just rhetorical flourish. Next, he attempts to formulate a precise form of the grounding objection and in the process uncover the theory of truth that is lurking in the background. Quoting Craig:

So what can be said on behalf of the grounding objection? I have said that the grounding objection seems to assume a particular theory about the relationship of truth and reality. The theory presupposed by the grounding objection appears to be a certain construal or version of a view of truth as correspondence which has come to be known as the theory of truth–makers. During the realist revival in the early years of the twentieth century various philosophers turned their attention to the question of the ontology of truth. Logical Atomists such as Russell and Wittgenstein thought that in addition to truth–bearers, whether these be sentences, thoughts, propositions, or what have you, there must also be entities in virtue of which such sentences and/or propositions are true. Various names were employed for these entities, such as “facts” or “states of affairs.” Among contemporary philosophers they have come to be known as “truth–makers.”

A truth–maker is typically defined as that in virtue of which a sentence and/or a proposition is true. According to Peter Simons, “Truth–maker theory accepts the role of something which makes a proposition true, that is, whose existence suffices for the proposition to be true. But it does not automatically pronounce on the ontological category of the truth–maker.” “Indeed,” he insists, “anything whatever is a truth–maker.” But historically the orthodox view has identified truth–makers with such abstract realities as facts or states of affairs–more often than not, the fact stated as a proposition’s truth condition, as disclosed by the disquotation principle. Thus, what makes the statement “Al Plantinga is an avid rock–climber” true is the fact that Al Plantinga is an avid rock–climber or the state of affairs of Al Plantinga’s being an avid rock–climber.

Now we immediately see the potentially misleading connotations of the term “truth–maker” for such entities. For making sounds like a causal relation between a truth–bearer and some concrete object, but truth–maker theorists are quite clear that the relation is by no means causal. An entity a makes a proposition p true if and only if that a exists entails that pThat truth–makers are usually conceived to be such abstract entities as facts or states of affairs underlines the point that a causal relation is not at issue here.

That the relation between a truth–maker and a truth–bearer is not causal is especially evident if we require truth–makers for negative existential statements like “Baal does not exist.” According to Kevin Mulligan, Peter Simons, and Barry Smith, “Not only Wittgenstein, but indeed almost all other philosophers who have investigated the relation of making true, have felt compelled in the face of the problems raised by negative propositions to adopt an ontology of truth makers as special, non–objectual entities having a complexity which is essentially logical. Obviously a fact like Baal’s non–existence, which is sufficient for the truth that Baal does not exist, is not a cause of anything.

A proper understanding of truth–makers, then, invalidates at once the crude construal of the grounding objection expressed in Robert Adams’s statement of the problem and again in Alfred Freddoso’s and Thomas Flint’s respective formulations of the grounding objection:

Counterfactuals of freedom . . . are supposed to be contingent truths that are not caused to be true by God. Who or what does cause them to be true?

Or, to put it more simply as Alvin Plantinga did: “It seems to me much clearer that some counterfactuals of freedom are at least possibly true than that the truth of propositions must, in general, be grounded in this way”. White seems to actually endorse this highly controversial system by positing that for every truth, there is a truth maker called “card-dealer”! However, I highly doubt that Dr. White has delved deeply enough into “man’s philosophy” to know what kind of theory of truth he endorses.

Dr. White does not seem aware of these responses, fails to interact with any Molinist replies to the grounding objection in general nor Craig’s responses specifically, and seems to tacitly assume a highly controversial theory of truth making.

Anti-Realism and Causation

White picks up on Craig’s comment that “none of these counterfactual statements actually exists” and then proceeds to inquire about how things non-existent things can delimit the range of possible worlds. I’ll leave it to Dr. Craig to tease out the causal relationship in his paper God and Abstract Objects (2012). Also, there are some copyright issues surrounding the material and I don’t want to write to John Wiley & Sons to get permission to reproduce any of the content here.

“Natural Law” and Logically Necessary Truths

This was Dr. White’s biggest blunder. Around the 29 minute mark, Dr. White quotes Dr. Craig saying that God did not volitionally select logically necessary truths either. Now, White calls this “natural law” (which I think is a misnomer) and then conflates this with physical laws! White lumps “the laws of logic, mathematics, and calculus” in with things such as Planck’s constant and Avagadro’s number. I want to be as charitable to Dr. White as I can but this is seriously an amateur mistake. Laws of logic are not even remotely in the same category as physical laws. The laws of logic are necessarily true. That means it’s literally impossible for them to be false. Can God change the laws of logic? Only if you are some kind of hyper-Cartesian that thinks God can make a four-sided triangle and can simultaneously exist and not exist while creating a rock too heavy for him to lift. Seriously. If you say God can alter the foundational rules of logic, you have surrendered any chance at coherency. On the other hand of course God can create the universe with different constants and quantities. There’s nothing metaphysically necessary about the way our universe is structured. Just for good measure, here is Craig’s version of the Argument from Fine-Tuning that argues specifically against the physical necessity of the preconditions of the Big Bang.

Assorted Miscellaneous Comments

Early in his critique, White mentions that “what [he does] flows from [who he is] and [who he is] is what God made [him] to be” and from this fact, God knows the counterfactuals of freedom concerning James White. Interestingly enough, this comment is completely consistent with the “conceptualist model” of divine knowledge that Molinism generally presupposes. The Molinist can reply that God’s self-contained, innate knowledge contains such exhaustive accounts about every possible individual essence that God knows just what that creature would do in any circumstance. To my knowledge, this is the position of Craig and even Luis Molina himself!


It’s nice to see that Dr. White is addressing Molinism and giving it more attention. I find his criticisms intriguing but misguided and outdated. I’m also happy to see him giving a fairer treatment to the tenets of Molinism. Ultimately, Dr. White’s rejection of Molinism is rooted in philosophical misunderstandings including unawareness of the responses to the grounding objection, confusion about the nature of abstract entities, and conflation of contingent physical laws and necessary logical laws.

1 – What Every Christian Needs to Know about the Qur’an, pg 10

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20 responses to “Philosophy Matters – James White Missing the Mark on Molinism”

  1. J.W. Wartick says :

    Really nice post here! I need to read through it again. Just to clarify: I did not forward any question to Craig. They simply used my blog post for a foil to look at molinism.

    • caplawson says :

      Thanks! I fixed it in the article. Also, congratulations on the honorary doctorate that Kevin Harris decided to award you midway through the podcast

  2. James White (@DrOakley1689) says :

    Thanks for the article…I hope to find time to use it as an example of the real problem we have here (the utterly unbiblical nature of this kind of speculation) on the Dividing Line this week 🙂


    • caplawson says :

      Dr. White! I’m honoured to have you comment on my humble blog. Like I said above, I really admire your work and I’m an avid listener of the Dividing Line even if we disagree about Molinism.

      There’s a crucial error in your comment though, Dr. White. Namely, I’m not addressing the Biblical concerns with Molinism. I admittedly left the Biblical concerns on the table to focus on your philosophical missteps and said as much in this article’s introduction.

      You’re more than welcome to use the content here as you would like but please do not portray my article that explicitly and exclusively focuses on philosophical issues as unbiblical. These are philosophical responses to philosophical objections.

      • James White (@DrOakley1689) says :

        My friend, I don’t know why Molinists can’t hear this, but, for a Christian, there is nothing, including philosophy, outside the Lordship of Christ, and hence is something that must be subject to divine revelation. It comes before all the philosophical speculations and arguments, not after. That’s the point. 🙂

        • caplawson says :

          Yes, sir. I completely agree that Molinism is subject to Biblical critique. However, your objections that I addressed here are not found in divine revelation, Dr. White. If your chief objections to Molinism are strictly Biblical, then I don’t see why you bother with things like the grounding objection.

          • James White (@DrOakley1689) says :

            As I will show on the DL today, the grounding objection IS biblical because the Bible DOES address God’s relationship to His creation. That is why no one—ever—in all the history of the Christian faith, ever came up with this philosophical concept by reading God’s Word. It came from outside, it will always come from outside, and hence can never truly be embraced faithfully.

            • caplawson says :

              Dr. White, it seems to me that your construal of the grounding objection presupposes a theory of truth-making that also posits God volitionally determines the necessary laws of logic. Will you discuss in the DL your theory of truth, whether or not it is Cartesian and provide a defence? Second, will you address if God can actualise a logical contradiction?

        • Randy Everist says :

          That’s literally not possible, Mr. White! Philosophy is just a second-order discipline about things. Hence, the view that the Lordship of Christ and other such truths must come from divine revelation is itself a philosophy. There’s no escaping it, I’m afraid. By “philosophy,” all that is meant is “reasoning.” If the cost of your view is jettisoning reasoning ability, then that is a cost I am not willing to pay. I’m not someone you can bully, and neither are a lot of other people. 😉

        • J.W. Wartick says :

          I definitely agree that we need to be subject to divine revelation. However, the specific critique given here is in response to the grounding objection. Is that objection found somewhere within Scripture?

  3. Lead Soldier (@DocPencil) says :

    It was said that patriotism is the last retreat of the scoundrel. “Robust” in reference to Molinism is one of those words like “enriching” and “enhancing” that attach like limpets to dubious notions. You gentlemen familiar with Occam’s Razor — do not multiply entities unnecessarily? “Wowsza!” guys — don’t take yourselves and your exalted philosophy so profoundly seriously. And what did the Gospel and the glorious everlasting God do without Molinism? How did the word of God grow and increase and the kingdom of God advance without Molinism and WLC?

    • caplawson says :

      By “philosophically robust”, I meant that there are several concepts in play that need to be broadly understood before evaluating Molinism. Examples include counterfactual logic, theories of time, determinism/indeterminism, libertarianism/compatibilism, and realism/anti-realism. Calvinism is also robust and requires a broad understanding of things like infralapsarianism/supra, single/double predestination, depravity, election, and grace. So, I’m not complimenting Molinism, I’m just stating that it, like Calvinism, has a lot of moving pieces. Arminianism on the other hand…

      I’m not sure what you’re trying to say about Occam’s Razor. I’m familiar with it but I don’t see how it’s relevant here. Molinism serves to break the dichotomy of human freedom vs divine sovereignty. Middle knowledge is a plausible candidate. So, Molinism actually only posits one explanatory premise; that seems about as parsimonious as an explanation can get.

      I try not to take myself too seriously; I’m just a no-name on the internet. When I defend Molinism, I don’t view it anywhere near on the same level as defending the Gospel.

      That’s a rather silly thing to say. I could ask an equally silly question and ask what God did without John Calvin; I’ve never said that Molinism was a prerequisite to advancing the Gospel. 😛

  4. Darian says :


    Maybe you can help clear something up for me. I tend consider the Molinism view as the more plausible of the available options. I listened to the recent podcast in which Dr. White responds to your blog post and yet again it seems that Dr. White was showing that he does not understand what he is critiquing.

    Molinism as you know is very nuanced and robust and requires very careful and rigorous thinking. Dr. White kept bringing up the point that God knows him because God created him and therefore has complete knowledge of Dr. White. To me this sounds like God puts your parts together that make you who you are and therefore in a mechanical type of sense he knows you and what you will do. Like an architect knows the building he designed.

    My question is this:

    If we indeed have libertarian freedom then it means that the grounding of a counterfactuals resides in the creature with freedom, in the same way that counterfactuals about Gods freedom are grounded in him. The “card dealer” (poor choice of words) to me is just a result of contemplating free creatures who do not exist.

    So if God creates a free-creature then that creature is now a truth maker in the same sense that God is. God makes choices that are grounded in him. In the same way that brute facts pop into some metaphysical/conceptual existence, when you contemplate free creatures. True propositions of creaturely freedom pop up into existence when you contemplate them in the same way that 2+2=4 when you think about it.

    Does this make sense? Am I making a misstep? I don’t have any philosophical training I just listen to Craig and Plantinga a lot.

    I wonder if Dr. White thinks God has the ability to create a free creature.


    • caplawson says :

      As a caveat, I don’t have much training either; however, I think you’re correct in saying that as libertarian creatures, we function in some way as the truth-makers of CCFs concerning ourselves. Concerning your second point (“So if God creates…when you think about it”), I would caution against the use of “pop into existence”. These particular propositions don’t actually exist as, for example, Platonesque abstract objects.

  5. Molinism is dumb lol says :

    The post that gave you your fame.

  6. James white vs William lane craig says :

    Thanks for posting this. I heard James White’s response to your article on his podcast. I was disappointed that Dr. White tried to engage with you and your summary statements instead of responding thoroughly and directly to Dr. Craig’s work.

    For what its worth, I do not think that Dr. White established in that day’s podcast, as he said he would in the comment above, that the grounding objection is biblical. He seemed to simply fall back to just saying something like “molinism is false because it is not taught in the Bible and therefore there could not be grounds for counter factuals of creaturely freedom.” But this is not the philosophical objection known as the grounding objection which Dr. Craig was responding to. If Dr. White were to construe it as such an argument it seems to me that it would be a textbook case of question begging because Dr. White would be saying in one of the premises of the argument that molinism is false (or that Calvinism is true) in order to show in the conclusion of the argument that molinism is false. Good arguments just don’t do that. Thus it seems to either be merely a biblical argument against middle knowledge or a question begging version of the philosophical argument known as the grounding objection. Dr. White has not shown how it can be both.

    I’ve written on this on my own site as well. Check it out:

  7. James says :

    I’m late:) but just to add to the comments.
    White is so out of his depth on this.

    Besides, White doesn’t seem to be interested in actually understanding anyone who doesn’t agree with him so it has become pointless to engage him. Some people are so divisive and arrogant that they have stepped so far over the line of charitable Christian decency that they no longer deserve to be included in a Christian community. He mocks, belittles, and fits right in with the unbelievers. Excuses should not be made for him. He needs to be put in the corner and ignored. If he is not, he will never see how foolish he is.

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